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"NES-Luke" wrote:Xenogears was for the PS I think, meaning it would be CDs, and I don't think it's going to have more than 4 (FFVIII, and IX) OK-- I was confusing it with XenoSaga for PS/2... -- Derek
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and how many discs was it? or is it that you combined the two and thought that Xenogears was on the PS2 and took up 3 DVDs?
 
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"NES-Luke" wrote:and how many discs was it? or is it that you combined the two and thought that Xenogears was on the PS2 and took up 3 DVDs? I honestly can't remember... It might just have been the longest playtime RPG or something... -- Derek
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perhaps, I looked at the website and they claim 80 hours, although that's dependant entirely upon skill and overall fun of the game. I spent over 80 hours on FFX because it was fun, I didn't want to finish it.
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"dkalweit" wrote:Wasn't there something special about Xenogear? Like being the longest RPG ever? Multiple DVD's, I think? Xenogears was only on 2 PS1 discs. It had real-time rendered graphics so it didn't quite use up as much space as the big pre-rendered Final Fantasy games and it didn't have CG animation. The game took me 99 hours, which is definitely long considering that Xenogears could actually be "paused" at any time to stop the in-game clock, whereas Final Fantasy's kept running when on menu screens and such. Xenogears was perhaps the most story heavy game of its time, although it didn't have 1 hour cut-scenes like I've heard that Xenosaga 1 has. It was also one of the finest RPG experiences I've ever experienced with its terrific sound, music, characters, and plot lines. Highly recommended, but only the hardcore will stand to play through it more than once.[/b]
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gamecube is amusing in comparison to xbox and ps2 except xbox is the best
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"faille" wrote:gamecube is amusing in comparison to xbox and ps2 except xbox is the best would you mind explaining why the Xbox is the best? if possible, without going off on the whole "oh, it's the most powereful because it's 733Mhz and has 64MB of RAM!!!!!!!!" if you know nothing about hardware.
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"NES-Luke" wrote:"faille" wrote:gamecube is amusing in comparison to xbox and ps2 except xbox is the best would you mind explaining why the Xbox is the best? if possible, without going off on the whole "oh, it's the most powereful because it's 733Mhz and has 64MB of RAM!!!!!!!!" if you know nothing about hardware. lol well i believe there basically the same (ps2 and xbox) except for the fact that xbox has no memory cards needed and virtually infinite memory as i have seen also the xbox can handle more like it loads faster
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well, the load times are the fastest on the GameCube due to the smaller disc size, although the Xbox is a close second. nothing can compare in terms of storage though, the xbox takes it there. but I have seen a lot of slowdown on xbox games. which frustrates me a lot.
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"NES-Luke" wrote:well, the load times are the fastest on the GameCube due to the smaller disc size, although the Xbox is a close second. nothing can compare in terms of storage though, the xbox takes it there. but I have seen a lot of slowdown on xbox games. which frustrates me a lot. well i mean xbox has a faster loading capacity on its and ps2 games gamecubes games arent nearly as packed full so of course theres loads faster
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If it's a well programmed game, it loads fast even when it's packed full.
And I don't think the capability of loading fast and no need of memorycards make a console better than the other.
Of course, technically the XBox is the strongest console on the market, but if there is no software I want to play...
I prefer Gamecube to XBox, because of Mario and Zelda. (I don't like shooters like Halo and stuff)
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"manuel" wrote:technically the XBox is the strongest console on the market, No, the Xbox is NOT the strongest console. and I guess I'll have to explain why... #1 yes, it's a 733Mhz CPU and the GC is a 485Mhz CPU, and the PS2 is either 266Mhz or 300Mhz (I can't remember...) BUT if you know anything about WHICH CPUs those are, then you can't claim the Xbox has the strongest. the Xbox uses a modified Pentium III or Celeron. Which is just a normal every day off the shelf desktop chip at it's base. it's a CISC chip, which is less efficient than a RISC chip which is what both the GC and the PS2 are. clock rates are pretty much irrelevant when comparing chips of different architectures (Xbox is x86 arch, GC is PPC, and the PS2 is MIPS) and it's getting to be that it's irrelevant to compare them even in the same architecture. take the Athlon from AMD, and the Pentium 4 from Intel, look at probably 80% of the benchmarks, and the Athlon is faster, and yet they've JUST broken 2.8Ghz I believe, intel is at 3.8Ghz. #2 the xbox, again just uses an off the shelf GPU (graphics processor) modified slightly (nVidia GeForce 3) with no dedicated memory. whereas the PS2 uses a custom chip designed for the console(it also shares system memory for the GPU), and the GC uses and ATI chip (I would consider the GC and Xbox tied here, since neither use a specialized chip) #3 the Xbox has 64MB of RAM, while the GC has 48MB in total, and the PS2 has 32 (if I remember correctly) BUT, the most xbox games run on a modified windows kernel, and I'm sure everyone knows the efficiency of windows... while the PS2 and GC both use a custom OS and kernel designed for the console specifically. in conclusion, there is a trend, note that if you just go by the numbers without knowing anything about what's behind them, then the Xbox is the 'strongest' but if you know what you're talking about, then the GameCube could be said to be the most powerful due to the fact that it takes advantage of a RISC CPU and a completely custom OS. Also note that the PS2 is VERY weak in comparison to both consoles if you just go by the numbers. and yet I would say that some of the best graphics have been seen on the PS2. Also, if any of my facts are inaccurate, please feel free to let me know as this is all from memory...
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I really don't want to defend the XBox, but look at games that came out on all three consoles and most times, the XBox version looks best. (I don't like that fact, though) My favourite example is Soul Calibur 2. Ps2 is the worst and GC/XBox are the better versions (graphically). XBox version seems a bit smoother than the GC version. I'm not good at technics, so I don't know too much about CPU types and their advantages and disadvantages. I only can compare them by the looks. :oops: But if you tell me, GC is the best, I will believe you. :D Because I like GC best. Quote:Also note that the PS2 is VERY weak in comparison to both consoles if you just go by the numbers. and yet I would say that some of the best graphics have been seen on the PS2. Those weren't pre-rendered? : edit: I found a site that said, Cube is place 3. Are they mad?? http://www.impactsites2000.com/gamereviews/hardware_main.htm
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"manuel" wrote:If it's a well programmed game, it loads fast even when it's packed full.
And I don't think the capability of loading fast and no need of memorycards make a console better than the other.
Of course, technically the XBox is the strongest console on the market, but if there is no software I want to play...
I prefer Gamecube to XBox, because of Mario and Zelda. (I don't like shooters like Halo and stuff) yeah i can definitly understand where youre coming from... heck if i had the money id own all three because i love some of the gamecube games EXAMPLE: Animal crossing. but the xbox having unlimited memory i really love because memory cards are expensive dont they run 30$ for ps2...
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"faille" wrote:...because memory cards are expensive dont they run 30$ for ps2... I wish they ran $30 when I bought mine... I bought Final Fantasy X right around the time they were having a big shortage on memory cards here, so I had to pay $70 for an imported one... another thing Sony sucks at... suppling an adequate ammount of product. rather than give enough, they'll ship half as much as is needed and reap the benefits of a majorly inflated price. I've never had this problem with Nintendo.
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"NES-Luke" wrote:"faille" wrote:...because memory cards are expensive dont they run 30$ for ps2... I wish they ran $30 when I bought mine... I bought Final Fantasy X right around the time they were having a big shortage on memory cards here, so I had to pay $70 for an imported one... another thing Sony sucks at... suppling an adequate ammount of product. rather than give enough, they'll ship half as much as is needed and reap the benefits of a majorly inflated price. I've never had this problem with Nintendo. holy crap u payed 70 bucks for a memory card i would not thank in my dreams of doing that lol what a rip all but nintendo even microsoft doesnt have enough of there product at once from what ive seen not just sony mc too...
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"NES-Luke" wrote:... another thing Sony sucks at... suppling an adequate ammount of product. This is very true. It seems as if they don't have enough faith in their own product sometimes. I had to wait for months just for stores in this area to get any PS2s in after they sold out. This is a town of 32,000 mind you. Not huge, but not tiny, either. Pathetic.
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"Roth" wrote:"NES-Luke" wrote:... another thing Sony sucks at... suppling an adequate ammount of product. This is very true. It seems as if they don't have enough faith in their own product sometimes. I had to wait for months just for stores in this area to get any PS2s in after they sold out. This is a town of 32,000 mind you. Not huge, but not tiny, either. Pathetic. yeah my city has thousands although i dotn no how many, anywayz, they still dont have any ps2s and its been about a month and a half since thyeve been sold out about 4 weeks before christmas... its utterly sad
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Nintendo is the only one still putting out a quality product, and putting the consumer first. with the DS, if there was even a SINGLE dead pixel, they would ship you a replacement. usually most things require a minimum of three dead pixels to warrant replacement. and not only did they replace the console, they allowed you to keep your current one, and ship it in when the new one arrived. there have been numerous other times where Nintendo service it just above and beyond all of the others. it's for that reason that I continue to support them as opposed to the others. I went to the dark side for a time, but that was a terrible mistake. I have now returned, and am getting back to my roots with the NES, and I've had no problems.
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"NES-Luke" wrote:I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Nintendo is the only one still putting out a quality product, and putting the consumer first. with the DS, if there was even a SINGLE dead pixel, they would ship you a replacement. usually most things require a minimum of three dead pixels to warrant replacement. and not only did they replace the console, they allowed you to keep your current one, and ship it in when the new one arrived. there have been numerous other times where Nintendo service it just above and beyond all of the others.
it's for that reason that I continue to support them as opposed to the others. I went to the dark side for a time, but that was a terrible mistake. I have now returned, and am getting back to my roots with the NES, and I've had no problems. yeah there is much due respect for nintendo i totally agree... but i just wish they could make more graphical and some more non childish games like for gamecube... i mean they got some games that arent childish and a ok amount for evrybody but they have tons of "Kiddy Games"
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