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I see what you're saying Luke, but alot of that is stuff that I'm not too worried about. For instance, the video cable... you know me, not too picky about that. Points to go towards whatever is nothing big to me as well. I'm not even sure I'll be using any kind of points, unless there's an awesome download for the Revolution that I just can't do without. The storage... hmmm... not sure if I'll use much, so for now that's something I don't need to take in as a factor. The headset... not sure if they'll have one of those for the Nintendo system, but I could really see it happening. That'd be kind of nice for it to I think. They have so many eggs in their basket right now that they probably didn't want to overwhelm developers... who knows. Basically everything that the Rev comes with right now is pretty much all I'll need, so not getting extra goodies doesn't affect me much. I'm thinking alot of people backing up this system don't care too much about that stuff either, though I could be wrong. I'm sure the extras that come with the 360 are a nice addition though :)
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Im getting one! :) At launch. :P
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If you decide only by price, don't buy new consoles. ;)
And for the games it's the same. Wait a year and many titles will be 30 or 20$.
I don't think Wii's 512MB will be full that quickly. I guess they tested it and tried to implement that much that under normal usage it is sufficient.
I could be wrong, though. :)
I say it again: I think comparing prices doesn't help very much, particularly here. Everybody has different needs and buys different accessories, so everybody must decide for him/herself.
Let's say you don't plan to go/play online with your console:
Wii: 249$, with 1 (or let's say half a) game, i.e. Wii Sports.
360: 299$ (the basic version is enough for that), without game. You can buy a cheap game and then you're at 319 or 329$ perhaps.
-> 60-70$ difference
Now you want to play online:
Wii: 249$, online gaming itsself is free
360: 399$ (you need the HDD to play online, right? Correct me if I'm wrong) + monthly fee about 5$ (right?) + a cheap game (20$)
-> 170$ difference (the difference is bigger if you want a wireless connection and the dongle is quite expensive)
VC games and XBL games cost about the same I think, so no big difference there.
That's why I'd rather compare the games.
I personally choose the console that has the games that interest me.
And here I have no choice really. I want Zelda, Mario and other Miyamoto games. I only get those on Nintendo platforms. That's why I always bought those.
My next platform will definitely be a Wii. Not now, but later. Now I wouldn't even have the time to play much. I'll save time and money and buy one when it's cheaper. :o
And when MS's new console is out I'll buy a 360 at a sale for Oblivion and some other interesting games that might still come up.
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i plan on buying a Wii, but not on launch. i'll wait a few months, when the hype of a new console dies down and when there's more games for it. i might even wait til the first price drop, i'm not sure on that yet. but the Wii is looking pretty good. for Luke, i think i remember you asking about a Canadian price? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii says $279.99
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I have a question, are all NES game created by Nintendo going to be playable on the Wii? And what about SNES and n64?
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Most likey Yes. But I think the price for some of the games are going to be over priced. I hope they find away to take Roms from the internet and put them on the Wii for free.
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"Aaron" wrote:Most likey Yes. But I think the price for some of the games are going to be over priced. i read on that Wiki article i posted for Luke, that in Japan Famicom roms for Wii would be 500 Yen, SNES 800 Yen, and N64 (i think) 1000 Yen. that's about $4.25 USD per NES game, kinda shitty, but i think the whole rom thing is more or less for the "ZOMG IM TEH RETR0 BCUZ I PLYD MARIO" people, and not for the collectors or the people that still have/play old games. "Aaron" wrote:I hope they find away to take Roms from the internet and put them on the Wii for free. i'd rather get them for free on the internet than get then free on a Wii, but that's just me.... no, i wasn't trying to rhyme :P
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"Luke" wrote:I picked up a wired controller today for $20. many of those "cheap" games are a lot more substantial that what Nintendo is forcing you to pay $50 for in Wii Sports. Also, there are a good handful of games that launch at $50 - $60, just like the Wii. it's mostly just super high profile titles that hit shelves at $70 You'll also be able to use Gamecube controllers on the Wii. But it's pointless trying to compare the non-standard hardware. Same thing goes with the cheap games. Wii will have good cheap games too, but it's impossible to guess about it right now. That's why it makes sense to compare the base price for a 360 game to the base price of a Wii game. The 360 games are $10 more expensive. Also, about the rest. You are trying to make the Wii into a 360. It's not. You will not need all that extra storage with the Wii. Most users will not need component video cables. The online points are also a pretty weak selling point. I really wouldn't let $20 in game demos sway me either way. Of course the Wii doesn't come with as much stuff as the 360. If it did, Nintendo would have to take a $200 hit on each system. The point is, if you are equally interested in both systems and you think each one has the same amount of games that you will enjoy and you are being conscious with your money, then the Wii is a better choice. That's what I think anyway. And please try to understand that Nintendo isn't making you pay $50 for Wii Sports. Just because most of us were expecting the system to cost $200 on launch, that doesn't make it true. The system costs $250. Wii Sports is a freebie add in. I highly doubt Nintendo would be charging us $200 had they left it out. What they did was put it in so that it's more appealing to the average consumer. When mom is out Christmas shopping, now she'll see a $250 system that comes with 5 games in one! Well then, her son is crazy if he thinks she's going to buy him that Xbox thing.
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"Mr. DNA" wrote:And please try to understand that Nintendo isn't making you pay $50 for Wii Sports. Just because most of us were expecting the system to cost $200 on launch, that doesn't make it true. The system costs $250. Wii Sports is a freebie add in. I highly doubt Nintendo would be charging us $200 had they left it out. What they did was put it in so that it's more appealing to the average consumer. When mom is out Christmas shopping, now she'll see a $250 system that comes with 5 games in one! Well then, her son is crazy if he thinks she's going to buy him that Xbox thing. It's $212 in Japan after tax, I understand that the price there doesn't equal the price here, but essentially, yes they are charging $50 for Wii Sports. I suppose I should have specified that the price comparison is based on the way I would require the console to be eqipped. I haven't run that has support for component video without component cables in a while, and I don't plan to change that any time soon.
 
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So are there going to be NES games playable or just SNES and N64?
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You will be able to play: NES SMS GENESIS SNES N64 Maybe we will get more systems soon.
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"Aaron" wrote:You will be able to play:
NES
SMS
GENESIS
SNES
N64
Maybe we will get more systems soon. SMS wasn't confirmed, but Turbo Grafx 16 was. At the Japanese event it was confirmed that there would also be games for the MSX computer available. I don't know if those will make it over here, since that machine didn't sell very well here.
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I wonder if I can buy VC games from other regions?
As I will buy a Japanese Wii, I'd like to know if I only can access Japanese content on their servers, or European, too.
Time will tell I guess.
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That would be pretty cool! Toys"R"Us near me are not taking anymore pii-orders(Pun intended) on the Wii. I guess I can just go to Zellers or something on Lanuch day. I remember when the NDS came out the first day there were lots of handhelds that weren't on pre-order.
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Quote:Wii Fund $9.00 Need: $401.21 Nice idea for your sig, Aaron. :) Maybe preorders aren't necessary. Nintendo usually has enough consoles out to meet demand... that's except Japan of course. :wink:
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I was kind of upset with the price but what ever. I am not going to get a Classic Controller at first I will just use one of my GCN one's. I also have a 512MB SD Card so thats fine. Oh thanks Manuel! I need sto start saving so more. No buying games until I reach my goal. I should have enough by Lanuch with Pay Checks and such. I am not going to Pre-Order the Wii, Just go and get it on Lanuch day, Hopefully.
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I'm also looking into getting the Wii at launch, but I need more money (I have 70 dollars). I might be thinking of preordering it though, because I don't want to be going to all the stores around me looking for one.
 
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I would hurry if I were you then. I guess soon stores will stop taking Pre-Orders. If you don't get it pre-Ordered just check Target or Best Buy or something they must have some that weren't Pre-Ordered at Lanuch.
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Well I believe it only costs 50 dollars to have one pre ordered, and I could just pay the rest on launch. So, I'll be looking into to it soon.
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Indeed, $50 is the Pre-Ordering price around here too, Well I found out a certain Game Store just an 20 mins away from me has Pre-Order's and you could put down $5 if you really wanted too I guess. But I may line up on Saturday and wait for the Wii.
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