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Japanese PSE law to become effective on April 1st 2006 PSE = Product Safety Electrical Appliance & Material) You surely have read about that on ign, joystiq or somewhere else. If not, here's the bad news. Japanese government (those asses) have made a law that will become effective on the 1st of April this year. And that's no joke. The law says that you can't sell electronic devices that are older than 5 years. That could mean the end for lots of so-called recycle stores that sell used and thus cheap electronics. And the worst thing: This means no used Famicoms and stuff any more. Man, am I pissed off. :evil: There is lots of protest going on in Japan right now. You can protest, too. Write emails in English to the Japanese Prime Minister's office, to other ministers, flood the mass media (many TV stations and newspapers have English pages with mail addresses on them) with complaints. (But don't be rude and stay friendly) Maybe it helps if they are aware that even abroad their silly law isn't popular. Or you may not have so many chances to buy used cheap hardware from Japan any more. :cry: Here's a homepage dedicated to this protest: http://antipse.org/index.htmlI know it's in Japanese, but... They also have some nice banners. One of them is in my sig. 
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is there a certain reason they want to ban selling electronics over 5 years old? i don't understand :x
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After seeing the date that it's supposed to go into effect, I started searching around because, well... the date that it's supposed to go into effect :P All I really found was this. Joystiq and the others don't have anything that I can find ( If this is so, that's not good. Quote:"This law is about putting a priority on safety," a source in the Ministry of the Economy, Trade and Industry explains to the magazine. "It begins with the hypothesis that accidents are more likely to occur in used products. In other words, the revised law has not necessarily singled out these used products, but that the situation has been better clarified." Sounds like a lame excuse to me.
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"Roth" wrote:Quote:"This law is about putting a priority on safety," a source in the Ministry of the Economy, Trade and Industry explains to the magazine. "It begins with the hypothesis that accidents are more likely to occur in used products. In other words, the revised law has not necessarily singled out these used products, but that the situation has been better clarified." We're not singling out used products! Just old used products! Phew, that should hold them.
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They say it's for safety, but old electronics aren't that dangerous IMHO... I think it's the big companies who don't like to see their products sold used and for cheap. They want the consumers to buy new expensive stuff all the time. Quote:We're not singling out used products! Just old used products! Everything that's older than 5 years. This means a used Dreamcast is OLD? Come on. And DANGEROUS? Well, if it falls onto your head maybe. But a 360 or PS3 will be doing more damage that way. I think that law is total crap. And about the date. That's no April fools' joke. Laws become usually effevtive on April 1st, which is BTW the start of the Japanese fiscal year, and the start of the university year, andsoforth...
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"manuel" wrote:Quote:We're not singling out used products! Just old used products! Everything that's older than 5 years. This means a used Dreamcast is OLD? Come on. And DANGEROUS? Well, if it falls onto your head maybe. But a 360 or PS3 will be doing more damage that way 5 years isn't that old, used PS2s will be outlawed too :lol:
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"manuel" wrote:And about the date.
That's no April fools' joke. Laws become usually effevtive on April 1st, which is BTW the start of the Japanese fiscal year, and the start of the university year, andsoforth... That's what I wanted to hear to confirm this, but at the same time I didn't want to hear it :( Hopefully this law doesn't make its way to the west. That'd be a damn shame. It's pretty much like restricting free trade.
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I imagine people are going to be shipping electronics out of Japan to sell them. This whole law seems rather imbecelic. It seems like there's some ulterior motives here. Either that, or the entire Japanese government is dumber than the Canadian school principle who thinks that Wi-Fi can cause cancer.
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Sigh...man thats a stupid law. The longer this world lasts the more stupid people get it seems. Next there gonna ban used videogames :roll:
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That law certainly stinks. A lot of places will lose money i'd imagine. One of the main reasons I want to go to Japan will be the oppertunity to get electronics/games consoles etc. It's not enough to put me off going entirely, but it's a bummer. :(
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I don't get how used electronics are a danger?! What will they do next in Japan, outlaw the sale of used cars because of they are more likely to have something wrong with them and pose a safety threat. And what about all of the small family run pawn shops and electronic repair stores that will be forced to go out of buisness? Makes no sense at all...
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Seems to me that its another "Government officials think they know whats best for us." law. I agree with the consensus, I don't see where the real danger of older electronics is. I mean, I've had my NES since 1987 and I haven't been severely injured due to electric shock yet. Hide the old-school gameboys. I feel sorry for all the resale shops in Japan. You wonder if the law will be repealed after a massive Japanese backlash...
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When there's a massive and big enough protest there is a slight chance that the law may be repealed.
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They are basically implying that they don't put out quality products (which isn't true) by giving a five year rule. Way to show faith in your products!
Do they have any statistics (to back them up) saying that a certain number people were injured due to their NES's (or other gaming systems) electrocuting them? Are the officals being paid off by the big game manufacturers? It's like this law came out of left field.
Are the video games also considered "electronic devices" in this law?
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Seems to me... this would include the consoles but not the carts? Or discs.. I guess nintendo is going to make a bundle with all those downloads if this comes true..
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Quote:Are the video games also considered "electronic devices" in this law? Like Nik said, only the consoles (hardware) and peripherals, but not games themselves. At least that's how I understood that.
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They can still be sold if they are certified safe are low voltage systems, not a big problem for chain stores such as "Hard-Off" and others.
I saw a good article on it somewhere about what it really means, I'll have to "digg" it up and post it
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I can't understand the whole point in this business either. This only concernes Japan, right?
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"NES-RULE!" wrote:This only concernes Japan, right? Depends on how you look at it.. Stupid ideas have a way of "catching on" with other people.
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