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hmmm... I now wonder if there would be a way to affect the games with the middle pins through the expansion port... I can't remember other threads, but is there anything from the expansion slot hook ups that could do something like this?
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I don't know of anything in the US that uses this expansion slot. But it would be interesting to put together some device that would flood the nes with data to see if it can handle it. Or see if the NES ever probes for devices there, that would be interesting. How does the Miracle piano connect to the nes? For the game genie project I am just waiting to get a spare system in town to work on. However, I think it may be a little more difficult than I imagined because soldering to steel is going to be too difficult on such a small scale. I am looking into the alternatives. Right now the leader is some kind of glue that would allow a current to flow nicely. This will mean it will be twice as fragile, but I think I may be able to take care of that. Also, the length of the wire may in fact be an issue.
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Wasn't the piano on the joypad port? I'm not sure, though...
May 16th...
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Well, tonight I ripped apart a Genie and desoldered the cart connector on it, I plan to clean it up a bit tomorrow, and maybe attach some wires. Of which there are a lot to deal with...
 
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Ripping apart a GG? What are you going to do with the wires you are adding, what will this let you do?
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the wires I'm adding will be going to the cart connector, this will allow you use of the Game Genie functions without inserting a separate add-on.
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You mean like allowing yourself to type in more then 3 codes or somthing?
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What NES-Luke is talking about is basically being able to put an NES game in the system, and use the Game Genie without having to use the actual Game Genie shell. Basically, a built-in Game Genie. That'd be rather unique, and I'm anxious to see if he can pull it off.
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I plan on attempting this once I find an old version NES lying around that I can pick up for cheap. However my main concern would be the strength of the signal after passing through the wires and game genie and more wires back to system. Are you planning on using a conductive glue or actually soldering?
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the plan is soldering, but I keep looking at it and saying to myself "that is a LOT of soldering to do..." and then I put it off I'm sure the signal won't be a problem though. But, as always, there's one way to find out.
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Has anyone attempted this yet? I noticed the last post was in December last year, and was currious if it ever was done/worked.
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December last year... the FIRST post was in February THIS year... I haven't put much more effort into it yet, I keep looking at it and putting it off...
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A glue that wouldn't inhibit current is glue gun sticks. I use them to bind wires together when I'm being too lazy to solder or run the risk of burning something close to that spot. You can find the mini glue guns at walmart for like $2.76... It takes a little practice not to get the glue everywhere at first but once you get the hang of it, it doesn't look that bad.. not that great but not all out crappy.... Don't know if that'd help... just a suggestion.
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Someone do this... I am dieing to see it. :cry:
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"OneGenerationTooLate" wrote:Someone do this... I am dieing to see it. :cry: Well, I have some good solder now... and I did rediscover the game genie from before... but 288 leads to solder... gimme a few days.
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"NES-Luke" wrote:
but 288 leads to solder...
gimme a few days.
NO!!! DO IT NOW!!!!! :twisted: :lol: I just discovered this topic maybe 10 minutes ago and it seems like an awesome idea. now I too am dying to know if it'll work or not
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dremel + connector from a Game Genie = ugly "back-loader" NES that has the same functionality as a $10 connector, but with 30 times more effort.
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"NES-Luke" wrote:dremel + connector from a Game Genie = ugly "back-loader" NES that has the same functionality as a $10 connector, but with 30 times more effort. :lol: Haha, yeah, you basically summed everything up there. why the hell just not use a game genie.. *Starts to think that one sucks ass*
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This topic is old but I haven't forgotten about it. I just finished overclocking my system and ready for something else. I am at school right now, my extra 72 pin connector and game genie are at my home. I am going to try this..pass or fail, I will post results. But of course, until I post this means nothing. And I agree, the point of this mod will be to have the game genie hidden. No awful backloading cosmetics.
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