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Magic Potato Ninja
Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 3:34:52 AM


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This thread is designed to give you step-by-step instructions on how to burn emulators and ROM disks to play in the Sega DreamCast.

I know there's other tutorial sites out there, but I'm recommending my own methods for doing it because these have been tested and are guranteed to work (provided they are done correctly).

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Here is how to get NesterDC, the great NES emulator, and Gnuboy (Game Boy emulator) running on the DreamCast and booting from the same disc.

NES & GameBoy Emulator

Requirements
1 computer
1 CD-r burning drive
1-5 CD-r's
Self-boot Inducer (Dream Inducer v.4)
Theme.sbt
NesterDC.sbi (NES)
Gnuboy.sbi (GBC)
NES Roms
Game Boy/ GBC Roms


First, install Self-boot Inducer v.4. directly to your "C/" directory if you haven't yet (remember it won't work in any directory with SPACES in the name). Be sure to name the folder something like "Inducer4" or "SBI4" or whatever, but NO SPACES.

- Download the Nesfiles.sbt (Self-Booting Theme).

- Download the NES emulator, NesterDC.sbi (NTSC - PAL) and Gnuboy.sbi (GBC emulator) file from www.sbiffy.com and put them in a convenient place.
(NOTE If you have Spybot: Search & Destroy installed on your computer, the SBI files may automatically be associated with it because apparently, the SBI extension is also used for Spybot apps. This won't affect anything though.)

- Open the "Inducer4" (or whatever you named it) folder.

- Now open the "Sbi" folder and place Theme.sbt (if you downloaded the one above, it should be named "Nesfiles.sbt") and both the NesterDC.sbi and Gnuboy.sbi in it.

- Click and RUN the Sbinducr.exe. A small grey window with buttons on it and a black command line window should appear. You should see some text to the right of the grey window.

- Check to see if the NesterDC.sbi and Gnuboy.sbi is loaded. Look at the text on the right and make sure it has a [+] next to it.
It should read - [+] NesterDC_6.0_NTSC/PAL and [+] Gnuboy_1.0.3 or close to that.

- Go to "Select Menu Type" and choose "Single Menu".

- Click the "Extract Sbi" icon (the first one, that looks like a UPC symbol).
The command line window should show the contents as they're being extracted. Wait until it says "completed".

- Now go back into your "Inducer4" folder (DO NOT EXIT SELF-BOOT INDUCER!), and go in the folder titled "Inducer".
This folder is where you can check the contents of what you've extracted and make changes.
(OPTIONAL I made some custom pics for the NES emulator to display on the menu screens. It includes the necessary DXL file for the changes and ReadMe.txt files for further instructions as well. All you really have to do is replace the files that are currently extracted in your Inducer folder. The file names are the same as the default's.
This is purely "optional", but mandatory if you like Karnov ...and liking Karnov IS mandatory!)
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NesterDC Custom Pics

- Next, place whatever Nintendo (NES) ROMS you have in the "Nes" folder and the Game Boy ROMS in the "Gb" folder. You can fit a ton of games for these systems, but if necessary, you can use "disc swap" to play ROMS from a separate "DATA disc".

Once you're finished adding the ROMs, go back into Self-boot Inducer, which should still be running.

Let's burn the emulators!

(NOTE If you are having problems burning the disc with "CD Record", you can try using "Disc Juggler" instead. If you choose to do this, click on the 2ND ICON (snake) to make a CDI image and follow the instructions here...
Burning emulator with Disc Juggler
Special thanks to A_Childs_Mom for the help.)

The following instructions explain how to burn the emulator using "CD Record".

- Click on the FIFTH ICON (it looks like a CD and case). This is called "CD Record". It is a free burning program that automatically completes the multisession burn for you.

- Click on "Scanbus". You will see information on your available disk drives. Find the drive you're burning with and enter the three-digit number in the field next to it.
[EXAMPLE - [1,0,0] Be sure to enter it exactly and use the "commas" (,).

- Go to where it says "Burn" and enter "4" in the text field.

Important! The disk must be burned at a speed no greater than "4" to avoid errors.

Now click "Burn".
This will burn the first session, adding the sound file to the CD which is necessary for the DreamCast to be able to "read it". Wait until "complete".

- Click the "Msinfo" button (according to the built-in tutorial, you should only have to do this the first time).

- Next, name the disk if desired (or just leave it as the default name "INDUCER").

- Click "Make Iso". This will make the Iso. You can watch progress in the command line window and it might take a while depending on how much content you're putting on the disk.
Wait until "complete".

- Finally, click the "Burn" button (after setting the speed to "4") under where it says "Burn Second Session". This will complete the disk. (Again, it may take a long time if there's a lot of data.)
The disk will eject itself upon completion.

- Try it out in your DreamCast.

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Here's instructions on how to get DreamSNES- the Super Nintendo emulator to work.

DreamSNES

Ingredients
1 computer
1 CD-r burning drive
1-5 CD-r's
Self-boot Inducer v.4 (Dream Inducer v.4)
DreamSNES.sbi
SNES Roms


First thing to get (I'm assuming you've got the first three ingredients covered) is to download [URL=h

http://www.playthenes.com
Roth
Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:10:08 AM


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Nice! I'll have to give that a shot sometime! I've always wondered how those things got made. I've always just burnt copies of other peoples' emulators. It seems like alot to do, but probably well worthwhile!

Excellent job, Z.E.N!

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rabidshark
Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:19:52 AM


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I've been curious to try this, however my main issue is speed. If this thing lags even a little bit I'll no doubt be thrown off. Is this full speed or should I keep waiting for one of those?

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manuel
Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:27:25 PM


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Ok, ZEN, I'll try this. I just need to get some CD-Rs.

I really really hope it works. :)

Although I don't know whether it will work or not... thanks in advance. :wink:

edit:
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I downloaded dreamsnes.sbi from sbiffy, but I got a zip file and no sbi file... what am I doing wrong? :(

May 16th...
Magic Potato Ninja
Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 7:50:31 PM


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"manuel" wrote:
I downloaded dreamsnes.sbi from sbiffy, but I got a zip file and no sbi file... what am I doing wrong? :(

Are you downloading this?
http://consolevision.com/members/sbiffy/files/Emus/DreamSNES_098_CG.sbi
That's the one I used. It should be the plain SBI file, not a ZIP.

[quote:28821a1072="rabidshark"]If this thing lags even a little bit I'll no doubt be thrown off. Is this full speed or should I keep waiting for one of those?[/quote]
Sadly, DreamSNES is not 100% full speed and the framerate is lower. It runs a lot of the games slower (perticularly in mode 7) but no slower than about 85% full speed.

RPG's and stuff are fine but games like 'F-Zero' suffer a bit.
DreamSNES is the best SNES emulator for the Dreamcast right now. I've tried others that were slower.

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manuel
Posted: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:15:59 AM


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Yes, I downloaded that. I click on "save as" and then the sbi changes to zip in the download window... :(

May 16th...
manuel
Posted: Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:10:18 AM


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I tried to change the file extension from zip to sbi and it worked, but burning the CD didn't. I get ASPI errors. I don't know what ASPI is, but it always gives me errors. It seems it can't make the iso.
I think I will have to live without SNES games on my DC forever... :cry:

May 16th...
Magic Potato Ninja
Posted: Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:41:23 PM


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"manuel" wrote:
I get ASPI errors. I don't know what ASPI is, but it always gives me errors. It seems it can't make the iso.
I think I will have to live without SNES games on my DC forever... :cry:

Go here and download the infotool.zip.
http://www.iomagic.com/TechSupport/infotool.asp

Run it, and make sure your CD burner can handle "TAO" and "DAO" modes. If not, you need to update your disk drive's ASPI drivers from here...
http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/support/driverdetail.jsp?cat=/Product/ASPI-4.70&filekey=aspi_471a2.exe

Don't give up yet! You're going to want NesterDC too.

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itoktoeatfish
Posted: Friday, April 22, 2005 6:19:10 AM


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dont mean to sound stupid but ive never messed with an dreamcast at all. to run this emulator or any burnt cd for that matter, does the dreamcast have to be modified at all?
manuel
Posted: Friday, April 22, 2005 9:10:27 AM


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I don't think it has to be modified. AFAIK it has to be revision number 0 or 1 (right?).

Thanks, Z.E.N, I'll download the files you told me and try it again.
I really want that to work. And of course I want NesterDC, too.

May 16th...
Malon_Forever
Posted: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:35:09 PM


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My brother was thinking about getting A Dreamcast, and the nhe saw this. He would like to do it, but he doesn't know what a "Self-boot Inducer v.4 (Dream Inducer v.4)". If you could help him, I would apprecaite it. Thanks.

manuel
Posted: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:37:17 AM


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"Z.E.N" wrote:
"manuel" wrote:
I get ASPI errors. I don't know what ASPI is, but it always gives me errors. It seems it can't make the iso.
I think I will have to live without SNES games on my DC forever... :cry:

Go here and download the infotool.zip.
http://www.iomagic.com/TechSupport/infotool.asp

Run it, and make sure your CD burner can handle "TAO" and "DAO" modes. If not, you need to update your disk drive's ASPI drivers from here...
http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/support/driverdetail.jsp?cat=/Product/ASPI-4.70&filekey=aspi_471a2.exe

Don't give up yet! You're going to want NesterDC too.


I'm very near giving up, though. I downloaded the infotool, but I already had that with my Nero. And of course my Nero can handle TAO and DAO.

The infotool told me, that the "NERO ASPI is installed and working properly", but under the point "system ASPI" it says "not installed". What's Nero ASPI and System ASPI? :? :(

May 16th...
Luke
Posted: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:23:16 PM


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I say just do the same thing, but rather than using CDRecord, since you have Nero, just make a DAO or TAO disc. It shouldn't matter which.

Magic Potato Ninja
Posted: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:53:18 PM


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"manuel" wrote:
The infotool told me, that the "NERO ASPI is installed and working properly", but under the point "system ASPI" it says "not installed". What's Nero ASPI and System ASPI? :? :(

You need to download and install the Adaptec ASPI in order to use it with CDrecord.
http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/support/driverdetail.jsp?cat=/Product/ASPI-4.70&filekey=aspi_471a2.exe&sess=no

You can use Nero if you want (since that ASPI is working), but you'll have to burn a multisession disk [First = Audio/ Second = Data].
I don't know how to do it with Nero and any version higher than 5.5 seems to not work well in DreamCasts.

"Malon_Forever" wrote:
My brother was thinking about getting A Dreamcast, and the nhe saw this. He would like to do it, but he doesn't know what a "Self-boot Inducer v.4 (Dream Inducer v.4)". If you could help him, I would apprecaite it. Thanks.

http://www.consolevision.com/members/fackue/shotgun/ShotGun.cgi?ammo=sbinducr4

Download it. Install it to your C:\ directory. It has a built-in tutorial. Very easy to understand.

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Anyway, I just finished making a cool NES Files "theme" for use with my upcoming NesterDC SBI's (and resisted the urge to use Evil-Nes' image for the "loading" screen :P).
If you think DreamSNES is difficult to make, then NesterDC will be a nightmare considering it involves extracting 3 separate emulators.

http://www.playthenes.com
manuel
Posted: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:54:55 AM


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As I read on some FAQ pages in many cases Nero 6 (which I have on my laptop) is no good.
Perhaps I'll try it on my old desktop PC, which has Nero 5.5 on it. I hope it still boots. :?

May 16th...
manuel
Posted: Saturday, April 30, 2005 9:19:57 AM


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I tried it on my old Win98 computer at home and the emulator CD was burnt without problems. :D
Now I have to wait until tomorrow to test it, because I have my Dreamcast in my flat in Munich where I study.

I very hope it works. Would be cool. 8)

May 16th...
Magic Potato Ninja
Posted: Sunday, May 01, 2005 3:19:00 AM


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Good luck fellow burners.
Well, the reason why I haven't posted the NEsterDC tutorial yet is because I still haven't got a working one. For some reason the NesterDC.bin files won't load after I try to start them. I don't know why. I didn't alter the binary codes in any way, but I had to make custom BIN files in order to extract them all because they share similiar file names that "overwrite" each other upon extraction. Oh well.
I'll get them right eventually. I think there's something wrong with sbiffy's NesterDC.bin's anyway (everything else seems fine though).

*sai*

Anyway, check this out!

This is my officially unofficial "NES Files Dreamcast Menu Theme" that I made.
Feel free to download it and use it like any other "Self Booting Theme".

This is my greatest achievement of the week (not counting that "Fabio" thing) and it really works, providing that you have good working BIN's (I don't).

I'm currently testing the Game Boy Color emulator for DC also. I'll be sure to add it to the thread later as it is burned nearly exactly like the Super Nintendo one.

http://www.playthenes.com
manuel
Posted: Sunday, May 01, 2005 10:04:21 AM


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Yes, that's what I want, too. GB(C) for DC. And GBA one time. If I had enough time I'd try it and make a tutorial myself, but this semester's gonna be hard. :?

May 16th...
Magic Potato Ninja
Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2005 3:37:44 AM


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UPDATE!

Added tutorial for NesterDC 7.1 and Gnuboy 1.0.3 (GameBoy Color emulator) to the first page.
Hopefully there won't be too many problems in making them work for people/manuel.

NesterDC is probably the BEST console emulator out there (just behind SMSplus though) and Gnuboy runs just as good as REW or VisualBoy.
The GameBoy games look better than I expected on a TV screen and both emus are 100% full speed.

I also made some more custom pics for the emu menu screens. Enjoy.

http://www.playthenes.com
Luke
Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2005 4:26:20 AM


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I've been planning to make up a SMS disc for the DC, but I can't find a good package of roms, romnation.net has plenty, but downloading them individually with that lame number deal takes forever...

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